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Joe Petko and Lorraine live in Colorado, USA. He was 59 when he was diagnosed on May 17, 2007. His initial PSA was 3.2 ng/ml, his Gleason Score was 3+3=6 and he was staged T1c. His choice of treatment was Robotic Prostatectomy. Here is his story.

Wow what a change in life when you are given the cancer diagnosis. What did people do before the internet? There is just a wealth of information available for research. My biopsy was on May 11th and my doctor called me with the results on May 17th. 12 core samples were taken and one was identified as cancerous 3 + 3 Gleason. About a week later I had an appointment to review my options. The treatment options included, surgery, seeds, external beam radiation, cryosurgery and watchful waiting.

Unfortunately, around this time it was discovered that I had a very large kidney stone which required attention first so that its potential for moving down the urinary tract would not cause damage through that area following surgery or radiation treatment. I had lithotripsy performed in mid June. That is a procedure where you are given general anaesthesia and then bombarded with sound waves to break up the stone. It worked but I had several days of rather painful passing of some of the stone pieces.

I moved on to further investigation of treatments which involved a lot of research, talking to people and meeting with doctors. I had 2 appointments with radiation oncologists. I even went to Johns Hopkins to speak to one of their doctors. I have attended a local support group since that time and have been monitoring the Yahoo Groups Prostate Cancer Group which has been for the most part helpful.

In my investigation on the internet, I found where UCLA had done a research project on quality of life after prostate cancer treatment. A report was issued by a research doctor who did not perform any of the treatments and he found that at the end of two years, the quality of life tended to even out between, surgery, seeds and radiation. That is not to say that the side effects were not different at times during those 2 years. In my mind that sort of levelled the playing field.

I considered most of the therapies before making a decision. I had been told that I would need to first have a thermal microwave treatment should I choose radiation or seeds because of my lower urinary tract symptoms. Doubling up on procedures was not attractive to me. Long airplane trips shortly following surgery was also ill advised because of the increased risk of blood clots. The proton beam treatment sounded like it had great promise, but I am still working and do not live near any of the locations which provide that treatment. I had even researched HIFU and have in fact talked to a couple people in my local support group but they have both had continuing difficulties after having that procedure done outside this country.

It seemed like my decision was narrowing down to either surgery or brachytherapy. A couple of the doctors confirmed that the cure rates after 10 years seemed to be identical and the UCLA report seemed to suggest that after two years the side effects would be similar. However the doctors suggested that after 12 years a divergent pattern begins where the surgery cure rate ends higher. I am still fairly young and have a statistical life expectancy of greater than 25 more years so I thought this was of some value. However, for me the real reason was I wanted some finality to this and removing the gland and getting the pathology was of greater interest to me. I was leaning heavily to surgery.

During the research, what I had read about the da Vinci robotic procedure interested me. I also listened to those in the support groups talk about finding a very experienced doctor regardless of the procedure so I zeroed in on robotic surgery. After getting some recommendations, I discovered a doctor who had done 1,200 open surgeries and then after learning the techniques of the robotic surgery had done 400 of those. After meeting and talking with this doctor I was convinced that this was the way to go for me. The doctor was very passionate about what he did and about his quest for trying to improve on the results of the surgery for his patients. While the doctors, in general, claim that robotic surgery is no better than open, I found that the doctors who perform it don't believe that. Since the robotic procedure has only been done for about 5 years there are no studies published that confirm the fact, but you can tell from discussion with doctors that have taken the time to learn the new procedure, that they believe complications are far fewer, recovery is faster and success rates are really good.

I had robotic surgery on November 13th in Denver and I believe with very good success. I will write again and talk about my experiences since that time.

 

UPDATED

May 2009

 

I went to my internist for a pre-op health check and for part of the blood work he ordered a PSA. It had only gone from 3.2 to 3.5 and that was over a period of probably 7 to 8 months. I felt like all the pomegranate juice and deprivation of red meat I did must have helped. So I elected robotic surgery and checked into the hospital in the morning, went through the prep, kissed my wife and was wheeled into the operating room. I saw the Da Vinci robot over in the corner of the operating room and the surgeon console off to the side of the operating table. Once I slid over onto the table, my surgeon, Dr. Edward Eigner, came over and joked with me to put me at ease and shortly thereafter it was "lights out".

I woke as I was being taken from recovery to my hospital room. We came across my wife in the same elevator as we were headed up there. She had been told that I was being moved to my room. I was not too out of it from the anesthesia because I remember Lorraine telling me that the doctor said everything went very well. There was very little blood loss, he was able to spare the nerves and the surrounding area looked good. I had tolerated the surgery well and was on my way to recovery. I spent 2 nights in the hospital, in part due to the fact that my surgery did not start until noon on the first day. While I was getting shots of morphine, I felt surprisingly well. Actually my throat was my biggest complaint due to the intubation during anesthesia. I had six incisions and all but one of them were very small. I also had a wound drain bulb attached to my abdomen.

Of course the catheter was there, but it did not seem to bother me (at least at first). I was amazed at the color of the fluid - clear yellow (not blood red) in my catheter. In my walks around the hospital I saw a couple of people whose catheter bags were blood red, which I had been told to expect. I was released to home less than 48 hours from surgery and I was happy to get outside and into the fresh air. We had been given our discharge instructions, had the IV removed and gotten dressed. I remember that you had to plan on extra time to do anything because it seemed to take longer to just get ready.

The ride home was pleasant but I remember complaining about the potholes in the road. Holding the incision sites helped. When I got home I changed into a night shirt and took off the leg bag. It was already full, most likely because I take water pills in the morning. I put on the catheter bed bag (much bigger capacity) and got settled into our recliner. I had read where another surgery patient had used a small bucket to carry around the catheter bag and I was quite comfortable with that. I bought a pair of warm up type sports pants that snapped up the side of both legs. I could then allow the tubing to come through the side and into my bucket. When I went for walks outside I carried a small shopping bag with the catheter inside. You would have to look quite closely to see the tubing from my leg into the bag. It was great to get a shower, but required a little ingenuity to find a place to hook up your bag while you were in there. A phone call from my doctor gave me the news that the pathology showed clean margins all around the gland. My family and I were thrilled. The normal time for catheter removal fell on Thanksgiving or the day after, but the doctor's offices were closed so I had to wait till the following Monday. While I found the cath a little irritating, it certainly was not a big deal and was removed just 1 day short of two weeks after the surgery. Not really an experience I hope to repeat, but certainly one that makes you feel free.

I got a copy of the pathology report. It showed cancer in both sides of the gland and in fact in the anterior, lateral and central lobe of the left and right side of the gland. Additionally it was upgraded from a 3+3 to a 3+4 in most of the areas. Even the bladder neck area contained some tumor. While the tumor was very close to the capsular margin, the seminal vesicles, the capsular margin and the prostatic urethra were negative for tumor. A cause for a big celebration. There was one hiccup that I experienced. The catheter was removed during my appointment around lunchtime. The waterworks system did not function properly after that. I was told to drink a lot which I did, but for some reason I could not void. I ended up back at the hospital that night fearing that they were going to put the catheter back in because it was getting quite painful. While I was in the ER waiting room at about 8:30 that night, hoping to be called in because I was almost doubled over in pain I walked around. During this time, I felt some wetness in the pad they had given me that afternoon. I went to the bathroom and was able to pass urine. What a relief! I did see the ER doctor and actually went again while in the exam room. I did not have to have the catheter reinserted.

One of the greatest areas of concern with this procedure are dealing with the issues of incontinence. There is so much written about it that I can certainly understand why it causes a lot of thought. Frankly, it was a non-event for me. Yes there was dribbling and during the first couple of months post surgery an occasional involuntary "squirt" caused mostly by unusual movements or at times the strong urge to urinate, but these never involved enough volume to even make the pad wet. I wore them for the first couple of months only because I wanted the confidence they provided. I put a clean one on every day, but I never once had to change a pad during the day or night. I can't say whether this was a result of the precision of the robotic procedure in the hands of an excellent surgeon, the fact that I began the Kegel exercises 3 months ahead of the surgery or a combination of them both.

On the sexual side there are some signs of life but I am told it will take quite some time for recovery. I have been taking Cialis 2 to 3 times a week to increase blood flow and believe that with the success I had on the urinary side that it is only a matter of time until this function returns as well.

PSA checks are done with regularity, first at every 3 months and now on a 6 month rotation. Everyone has been less than 0.1 which makes me happy. Hopefully that will continue.


Joe's e-mail address is: joe.petko@level3.com

 

 

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